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Excerpt from Interview with Dr. Neil Riordan on Stem Cell Therapy for Heart Disease
(below is a transcription of the above excerpt)
DOES STEM CELL THERAPY WORK FOR HEART DISEASE?
Joe Rogan: Wow! What about heart disease? You were talking about people that have heart issues.
Dr. Neil Riordan: Yes, we have a number of patients with heart failure that have responded quite well to the stem cell therapy treatments.
Joe Rogan: Heart failure? Heart attack? In need of a heart transplant? That kind of thing?
Dr. Neil Riordan: Yes, on the heart transplant list.
HOW STEM CELLS WORK FOR HEART FAILURE
Dr. Neil Riordan: There are different kinds of heart failure. The interesting thing about heart failure is that the stem cells don’t need to go to the heart. The stem cells don’t actually become new heart cells. Its actually the secretions of the cells, like I said before.
There was a study at the University of Buffalo, where they injected stem cells IV into a hamster model of heart failure. They looked into the heart and there were very few stem cells but the heart failure got better. Then they said oh, lets inject those same cells, these are umbilical MSCs, inject them into the hamstring muscle. They demonstrated that none of the stem cells came out of hamstring muscle and yet the heart failure got better.
Then they took just the juice, the liquid that the stem cells secrete, and they simulated the amount of juice that the cells would have produced in the body and just injected the juice and the heart failure got better.
Its really the secretion of the stem cells stimulating the natural repair, augmenting the natural repair process of the body that has been stretched to its limit. If you have a 65 year old, those stem cells aren’t dividing very well. The juice can help the cells divide faster and produce more repair molecules and make the heart better.
Joe Rogan: Do you think it can take someone who’s on a heart transplant list and literarily fix their heart?
Dr. Neil Riordan: I’ve seen it happen time and again.
REPAIRING THE HEART WITH STEM CELL THERAPY
Dr. Neil Riordan: There are clinical trials using similar cell types that also have demonstrated that. There’s a molecule called BMP which is high in heart failure. The BMP came down in every single case. The ejection fraction, which measures the efficiency, how much blood the heart is pumping on each stroke, went up in every single patient.
My Recovery from Open Heart Surgery with Stem Cell Therapy
The craziest case was a gringo who was down in Costa Rica and he was, about 20/25% routinely. He got a viral disease or something else and he was 11% ejection fraction, normal is about 60. The regular hospital who worked a lot with us and our spinal chord patients had seen results. Seen people walking again. They said to him, you cant get on a plane, you’re at 3700 feet, if you get on a plane you’ll be dead, you might as well go and see these guys at the stem cell place and see if anything can happen. He went from 11 to 42 or something like that but he wasn’t the first case.
The first case was a doctor who was a friend of Jorge’s, a friend of Dr. Paz our medical director. He had congenital heart failure. His mother had died of heart failure, his sister had died, his brother had died and he was not even 50 years old. His ejection fraction was hovering around 30%. A lot of people at an advanced age are not even going to get on the heart transplant list. If you are 50 or 60 years old and there’s a 20 year old ahead of you, the 20 year old is going to win. He begged and begged to come down. He was our first patient. We didn’t want to take him because we didn’t know what was going to happen because nobody had ever done it. We treated him and he went back and he had an ejection fraction, he had an echocardiogram and it was 52%. The doctor didn’t believe it so he redid it a month later and it was 55%.
I don’t think this stem cell therapy is for every case. People with super bad heart attacks and there is not enough to repair, then you really need a heart transplant. I think you’re going to see ultimately in 20 years, you’re probably going to see standard of care for diseases, chronic diseases like any chronic degenerative disease for which there’s no good treatment. You’re going to see standard of care is going to be young healthy mesenchymal stem cells. If you look at the root cause… I get the question a lot… How is it these stem cells work for so many things? When the root cause is a lack of, or a dysfunction of, those stem cells, then it makes sense that replenishing those or restoring them with young healthy ones could be a useful treatment.
LEARN MORE ABOUT STEM CELL THERAPY FOR HEART FAILURE
We highly recommend that you take advantage of Dr. Riordan’s lectures on stem cell therapy for heart failure at the Stem Cell Institute Panama. Dr. Riordan is the world reigning expert in Stem Cell R&D.
“Through retrospective analysis of our cases, we’ve identified proteins and genes that allow us to screen several hundred umbilical cord donations to find the ones that we know are most effective. We only use these cells and we call them ‘golden cells’. We go through a very high throughput screening process to find cells that we know have the best anti-inflammatory activity, the best immune modulating capacity, and the best ability to stimulate regeneration.”
– Dr. Neil Riordan (explaining why mesenchymal stem cells at Stem Cell Institute are unique)